The Thread
Act X
In the meanwhile ... there is
another discussion taking place.
Damselblue began two different
threads on the same day with identical
titles and initial posts, placing them
under different topic headings.
There has been a bit of discussion
going on ... let's look in here
for just a few moments ...
This is beginning to get interesting!
damselblue
I read to do a high SG dip before placing
the live rock in the tank. I did that.
I did it for 3-5 minutes.
The SG was 1.035.
I wanted to kill anything bad on the rocks.
Now they are saying that I killed everything.
They are blaming me.
So did I do something wrong?
Now I'm very depressed.
I cleared out a bad snail that was a coral-eater
and very tiny. So I think that is good, but could
I have killed the rest of the life in the tank?
So, did I totally screw up?
Duke
No worries, just give it time and
you'll start to see some serious life.
I wouldn't worry about killing everything
with your high s.g. dip. It'll color up.
It's not impressive when you
first get it sometimes.
sailingbill
It will be fine.
Just let it sit in the tank and cycle.
Don't get worked up about it.
Mine didn't have much life on it either,
but the bacteria is what is important and
how it looks in the tank. It will take
awhile for stuff to start showing up.
I think it looks like most everybody's rock.
Looks good to me.
MakeTheScene
There are some interesting shapes
in that batch of live rock.
As others have said, live rock will
look very different after it's been
in your tank for a while.
I'd give it some time.
Dr. Scotty
Agree with others.
If you like the shapes, then be happy.
I think it will look much better once you
get sand in there and aquascape it.
It should purple up in no time!
Age of Aquarius
I think your rock looks very similar
to what you ordered.
Weight is hard to judge, some rock is
very porous and other rock is super
dense and heavy.
The rock looks decent to me, I personally
don't like the denser rock cause it costs
more to fill up your tank!
Hewey
I think that looks like bad rock.
You should tell it to go sit in the corner
till instructed otherwise ... LOL (joking).
Like others said, it looks fine and just
give it time.
Be sure to keep your calc-alk-mag levels
up and it should color up within a few months.
Then ... out of the blue, a post appears
which changes everything ...
JesseJames
I purchased what was suppose to be
75 pounds of the Deepwater Vava'u
from the same place.
They sent me 50 pounds and then tried
to convince me that 25 pounds of water
had either drained or evaporated from
the rock in transit from Tonga, and that
this was completely normal.
There is no customer service with
this place imo. "Too bad" is exactly
the attitude I received as well.
I was very unhappy with my
experience ... you're taking a chance
imo when ordering from this company.
Without apparent hesitation,
Damselblue fully believes JesseJames ...
she does not seem to question his story
or ask if there could have been
any type of misunderstanding ...
damselblue
Well JesseJames, I think that is just plain
mean of them.
I'm mad at them for my
rock and you should be mad too.
Are you going to complain?
I am.
I am very upset.
The "too bad" deal they are giving us is
complete nonsense. Not fair.
The website I got the SG dip from
ships from the exact same place.
They recommended that dip and these
people said I killed all my creatures
because of the high dip.
They said the live rock should only
cure in 1.021 water.
That's on the low end of the scale, right people?
Isn't it supposed to be 1.025?
Hmmmm ... the website advises that for curing,
1.021 is fine ... afterall, much of that water
will be thrown out almost every other day
when first curing ... why waste the salt?
Is that such bad advice?
JesseJames
It's not a total loss Damselblue.
That rock you have will most definitely
color up. With a good eye for
aquascaping, you should be fine.
Don't sweat the dip you performed.
I don't think it did much damage to
your rock, if any. .035 is not a crazy s.g.
for such a short time as a dip.
You just learned a valuable lesson regarding
many online vendors (there are several that
are very good.) Check the vendor forum
here for some with excellent reputations.
The best thing you can do is leave feedback
(tactfully imo) for them.
This happened quite a few months ago girl.
The bitterness of (imo) being burned has
passed. I'm sure your's will as well.
It seems some have done business with
Birdfish and have been completely happy.
SuperDuper
High or low SG dips done long enough
will most likely kill many things on
the LR, both good and bad.
It's possible that you killed many things,
but that doesn't mean the entire rock is
devoid of life.
Some stuff will come back, but not everything.
I wouldn't do it again in the future though.
I always thought the more diversity and
life the better, especially when it comes
to a DSB (deep sand bed).
If something bad came in on the rock, you
can always remove it later.
Fizz
After some time, 2 weeks to a month,
you'll see the beginnings of the LIVE in
the rock.
You'll probably get some small feather dusters,
macro-algae and lots of worms.
A lot of things will begin to sprout up,
not just purple coralline. While the bacteria
will take care of the nitrites and nitrates in
the water, there will also be life that helps
take care of the cleaning of the tank.
It's really amazing to watch it all
develop, but you have to be patient.
After all the life on the rock has been through
to get into your tank, a high-salinity dip won't
finish it off. Much of the life is buried deep
within and still burrowing. Within a month,
you will be amazed at everything going on,
and it only gets better.
PolkaGirl
I will have to agree with Fizz.
For the first month of having my live rock,
it was just like looking at rock in water.
After about the first couple of weeks to a
month, suddenly things I had never seen
before appeared out of no where.
Feather dusters, sponges, worms,
and TONS of pods.
Now, when you turn the lights out in my
tank and look in with a flashlight, if
you stare at the sand for a few seconds,
it begins to move much like the 3D puzzle
photos in the newspaper.
I wouldn't be too upset over your rock.
It may look dull now but it'll come to life,
and no one said you can't add more rock later
that has a little bit more shape to it.
damselblue
It would be nice to be able to pick out your
own live rock. The shapes will not allow
for great aquascaping. It's going to be hard.
After this exchange of comments,
Damselblue returns to "The Thread"
to post these comments ...
I don't think it's funny at all. =*(
This guy just told me too bad.
There is another post in another forum
where a guy ordered 75 pounds of Vava'u
and he was only sent 50 pounds.
The guy told him the same thing.
Too bad.
We will now return to "The Thread" in progress ...
...Continue to Act XI - Scene One